The Birthers Are Back in Town

For most people, the “birther” conspiracy—centered on the belief that Barack Obama wasn’t a natural-born American citizen—ended when the president released his long-form birth certificate to the public last April. Birther claims were always bogus, but the release of the birth certificate was supposed to nail the coffin shut.

For a while, it did. According to YouGov’s Adam Berinsky, the proportion of Americans who said that Obama was born in the United States rose from 55 percent before April 2011 to 67 percent afterward. Likewise, for Republicans—the group most likely to believe the conspiracy—the number who said Obama was born a citizen increased from 30 percent to 47 percent. Still low, but a real improvement.

Recently, Berinsky polled the question again, focusing on Republicans to see if their attitudes have changed in the ten months since the president released his birth certificate. Far from getting better, Republicans have actually doubled-down on the belief that Obama is foreign born:

Berinksy points to the durability of rumors in the face of lasting information as the culprit. As he writes, “Rumors tend to be sticky and merely repeating a rumor—even in the context of debunking that mistruth—increases its power.” Likewise, political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler have found that corrections often fail to reduce misperceptions among the target ideological group and that corrections can even backfire and strengthen false beliefs.

In addition to both factors, I wouldn’t be surprised if election-year rhetoric plays into it as well. Up until recently, the GOP hopefuls have struggled to distinguish themselves, and some candidates—like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich—have centered their attacks on the assumed “foreignness” of President Obama. The slogan “Believe in America,” for example, doesn’t actually make sense unless you assume that the president isn’t American enough to lead the country. And claims that Obama is a “Saul Alinsky radical” who “apologizes for America” and wants to adopt “European socialism” are nods to the myth that Obama is foreign-born (and thus, untrustworthy).

As the election heats up, and this rhetoric becomes more intense, I wouldn’t be surprised if the proportion of Republican birthers increases from its current high.

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Now I understand where the expression"blind hatred' comes from. Or less dramatically, "There are none so blind as he who will not see." It would seem that at this year's Republlican Party Convention, mandatory dress will consist of white robe and hood covering the head. ,

The doubts of the birthers are only an excuse. Their rejection of Obama is actually based in the color of the President's skin. They lie -maybe even to themselves. If you confront them they say: "Oh, no, segregation is over; I'm not racist". B****hit.

Lets see if I have this straight. Obama's parents were both registered students at the University of Hawaii, a given. His mom gets pregnant so the parents travel to Kenya so that she can give birth in a 3rd world medical facility. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.

The issue is not whether it makes sense, as greenhi notes. Nor is racism an issue of consideration: they probably know that it is racist. They just don't care.

The birther strategy is to keep repeating this nonsense so that a sliver of suspicion will always linger among those who disagree with Obama's policies. That sliver of suspicion will help justify other perceived grievances against Obama.

"Four legs good, two legs BETTER!"

My understanding of the term "birther" is that it is a pejorative term used by qu-ers to address heterosexuals. Hence, one must assume the pejorative connotation transitions conveniently for qu-ers libs and other libs when addressing an issue which clear- thinking Americans ( which tend to be conservative by nature ) tend to take somewhat seriously.

As a matter of record there is no name, signature or record of anyone associated with Obama's alleged birth in Hawaiii, at a time and date during which that particular named hospital had yet to exist, yet the document provided from the Nairobi hospital, where Obama has stated he was born, provides the name, title, date and signature of ten individuals involved with the birth in some manner. Hang it up.

Those of us who dispute 'birthers' don't mean the term to be perjorative, but rather it is intended as an expression of sympathy for individuals so profoundly ignorant as to hold to a belief bordering on insanity.

That's a breeder, not a birther.

Article by R.E. Sutherland, M.Ed./sciences
Freelance Investigative Science Reporter
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1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya , East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the " British East Africa Protectorate".

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital ". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

Resources:
http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

Post-colonial history (from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

The Plot Thickens

An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose
Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama:

Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the
United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama's
current SSN) on or about March 1977.

Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut . Because of that,
his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few
reserved for Connecticut residents.

Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no
reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None
whatsoever!

Now comes the best
part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in
Hawaii, where he died.

Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked
part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and
therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.

The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's
death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there
were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.

The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not
a U.S. Citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a
citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro simply scoured
the probate records until she found someone who died who was not
receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwigs
Connecticut SSN for Obama.

Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto
the issue of Barry O's use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads
exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama.

Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term "natural born" there are few who do not understand that if you are using
someone else's SSN it is a clear indication of fraud.

If you honestly believed any of this nonsense, don't you think billionaires like the Koch brothers or Ruppert Murdock , or politicans competing with Obama like John McCain or Hilary Clinton, or even loudmouth Donald Trump, would hire the finest Lawyers in America to go after him? Sorry, friend, but you will in a world on nonsense and gibberish. Everything you said here has been proven false over and over again.

By the way, Kenya was founded in 1920 and became independent in 1963.

There was a video linked on WND in 2010 reporting on Hawaiian officials' refusal to sign Obama's "authorization for candidacy", according to the provisions of the U.S.Constitution. They had no trouble signing Kerry's, or Gore's --- but they refused to sign Obama's. The video recounted that Pelosi wrote a SPECIAL authorization, "duly authorized by the DEMOCRAT NATIONAL COMMITTEE" which they signed. Hawaiian officials obviously knew he wasn't born there, and were afraid of being prosecuted in the future.

A news article in late October 2008 on WND quotes Obama's grandmother, "He was born in Mombassa, Kenya; I was there!" Grandma died a couple weeks later.

Gadgeteer, if you really believe all that stuff, I have a nice bridge I'll sell to you cheap.

Hi, Silverfox! Please cite the specific points that you think I'm ludicrous for believing. I clearly saw myself on the "jpeg of obama's birth certificate" the father's ethnicity is "African" (I wanted to edit the post but couldn't). NO document in 1961 EVER listed ethnicity as "African" --- it would have said "Negro".

No one has ever come forward claiming association with Barry during most of his college years. All college records have been SEALED; we have no theses, no grades, no paper trail of his past at all.

The "Left" has somehow successfully closed all discussions with nothing less than RIDICULE --- labeling everyone who validly questions Obama's history as "rednecks/dullards/conspiracy-nuts/BIRTHERS". It is not wrong nor unintelligent to ask questions. Indeed, the difference between "ignorant" and "intelligent" is largely the number of questions asked.

I came to this site via WND, an article entitled "The Birthers are Back". World Net Daily did host that video revealing Hawaii's refusal to sign Obama's "authorization for candidacy", until the words "authorized by provisions of the U. S. Constitution" were removed. I clicked on the link (wanted to include it here), but it no longer works. The citation of Obama's Grandmother ("He was born in Mombassa") is well documented.

Rather than sell me a cheap bridge, why don't you investigate the facts yourself --- and convince us with your findings? Obama is really an unknown; flat broke before he ran for Congress, now he's anything but --- and no one knows who he is. There is a report on his "world tour" with his college Pakistani room-mates, stopping in highly suspicious middle-eastern countries.

Whatever one wants to call "conspiracy" or not, the fact is Obama was endorsed by Hamas, Chavez, both Castros, Abidenejad (sp?), and every other despot & terror organization (reportedly also by Al-Qeida).

Why is this not a problem? I hope and pray it BECOMES a problem for American voters, before this November. A lot of us are severely terrified about the future of our very country. Fifteen trillion debt! When China's debt (last I looked) was negative 4.5 trillion (4½ trillion in cash sitting around!). If you counted to one billion, one per second, it would take you nearly thirty years! But we're talking five THOUSAND billion! The growth of our national debt has been increasing, even during the lie of "Clinton Balancing the Budget".

We are facing the end of America --- and the people are beginning to realize it. Some in office, notably Obama, are doing exactly the right things to end the country. We want it to stop.

The term Negro applies to American's of African decent. To immigrants from African the correct description is African. And obviously you did not know but nationality or race is whatever the parents report themselves as. If you have an honest interest in President Obama's history, there is a comprehensive biography starting with his grandparents, entitled "The Bridge". And your assumption that tens of thousands of people engaged in a massive fraud, including people who hate his guts and would have gained tremendously if he were disqualified. Grandmas telephone conversation with an unqual;ified translator is nonsense and she reiterated that he was not born in Kenya but was born in Hawaii. But if it made you run out and buy Corsi
's book, you contributed to his personal wealth. Bashing Obama is big business and there are a few million suckers who will throw their hard earned money to read and hear what they want to read and hear. You haven't explained how two dirt poor students living with his mom's family managed to raise the several thousands of dollars needed to travel to Kenya and back , in an age before Boeing 747's and real cheap air fare. Nor have you explained how the local Hawaii newspapers published his birth announcement based on reports issued by the hospital of his birth. Don't suppose anyone has a time machine to travel back to 1961 to infiltrate the hospital and issed the phoney birth report? f

On the White House website: "In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet." I ask, "what date is stamped on this document?"

snopes.com is filled with information that discredits these "comments" you've listed. Using WND as a credible source is, well, questionable to say it kindly.

Wrong SSAN: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

Birth Certificate: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

More Bith Certificate: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

College Years: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

There are many articles on President Obama - most labeled false. However, I doubt that anyone that considers Joseph Farah and WorldNetDaily an authoritative source will be convinced by Snopes - or any other rational site.

Hi, "Dbtexas". The "snopes" link you provided on "ssn", lists obama's ssn as beginning with "045" --- it's still CONNECTICUT. How did a HAWAIIAN citizen get a CONNECTICUT number?
http://socialsecuritynumerology.com/prefixes.php

RE "birth certificate" --- wrong, I'm talking about the RELEASED US certificate. It lists father's ethnicity as "African" -- NO document in 1961 EVER said "African", it would have said "Negro"!!! The number also does not fit with other certificates issued at that time.

RE "college years" --- no other politician has spent so much time and money sealing records (at least two million!); and no other politician has been ALLOWED to do so. The obvious question is "why"? Doing a search on "Sohale Siddiqi" (Obama's college room-mate in New York, from the last Snopes entry), there is an EXTENSIVE Pakistani connection (see link below). This connection to our "Head-of-State" is frightening to many people; not the least because of Pakistan's support of Al-Qaeda and the overt protection of Osama Ben Ladin.

http://pakistaniat.com/2008/09/01/barak-obama-pakistan/

Snopes also has come under scrutiny as not being impartial.

There are too many unknowns and shadow-connections in Obama's past to simply dismiss them with a scoffing "You stupid birthers". Such ridicule is a blatant attempt to disarm those who only want the truth. If there's nothing to hide, why conceal it --- and with so much effort?

This seems to be the video I was looking for earlier --- Hawaii refused to certify Barak Obama as "authorized by provisions of the United States Constitution"; instead, Pelosi had him sign a certification "authorizing Obama by the Democrat National Committee".

What does Hawaii know that has been hidden from us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFwqUi3zR0

When you start taking stuff you see on youtube seriously you really are living in an alternate universe where two plus two equal whatever you want it to equal and facts are outlawed.

A few years ago I asked the State of Illinois for a copy of my birth certificate. I received instead a "Certificate of Birth". At least Obama has a certificate of LIVE birth. Imagine my shock to find out that I was actually born a dead Kenyan!!

My parents never breathed a word to me. I will never forgive them.

To Gadgeteer,
I, too, was born in Hawaii, My certificate of Live Birth also states that I was born in Kapiolani Maternity and Gyn hospital, and I was born years before president Obama was born there. If you will go back and read the source you cited on Kapiolani hospital more carefully, you will see that 1978 is year the maternity hospital combined with the children's hospital to become Kapiolani Women and Children's Hospital.

Hi, mlkirkpatrick. Will you tell me something? Do the first three numbers of your ssn conform to "Hawaii" area allocation, 575-576?
(see table at http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/stateweb.htm)

I have not confirmed that obama's ssn is as listed on Snopes
(http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp).

According to the Snopes entry, obama's ssn begins with 042 --- which is consistent with Connecticut. Assuming that IS obama's real ssn, why do you think it begins with 042? If as a Hawaii resident yours begins with 575-576, can you explain the difference?

I came to this website via World Net Daily, an article linking here "The Birthers are Back" (disparaging those labeled "birthers") --- on WND site is this article corroborrating the whole number, stating that "obama is not using a valid ssn". The reasons listed could include:
1.False Identity
2.Noncitizen Not in Status
3.Multiple SSNs with Different Identities
4.Scrambled Earnings with New SSN Assigned
5.SSN Obtained Using Fraudulent Documentation
6.SSN Assignment Based on Harassment/Abuse/Life Endangerment
7.Fictitious Identity
8.Fraud – OIG Investigated
9.Fraud SSN Misuse

Exactly what do you (and all other readers) think is occurring?

Oops, I meant to link the WND article, dated September 12, Two Thousand Eleven:
http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/344461/

So --- what's really happening? Is this actually obama's real SSN, is it fake, why does it have a Connecticut prefix, and why isn't this making waves in the media?

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