If it were anyone else, the story would be positive -- he's willing to put his money where his mouth is.

Since it has been proven that the atmosphere is not warming, the agenda was switched to a war against "climate change." People who do not understand that this so-called crisis is fallacious are incapable of independent thinking.

Yet another "they say" example of crappy journalism.

Gary:
Who is telling you "it has been proven that the atmosphere is not warming"?
My friend the oceanographer and arctic ice expert said 20 years ago, he couldn't yet tell, but when I asked him 2 years ago, I didn't even get the question finished before he interrupted and said, "Oh, yes, global warming is absolutely true."
Actually, rather than "global warming" -- which has an implication of hotter summers and warmer winters wherever one lives and notices the weather -- I prefer to use the term "climate change" or more precisely the phrase "increased energy trapped in the biosphere".

Gary has been misinformed:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_sc/us_sci_global_cooling

"Global warming" became "climate change" to provide a more precise description of what was happening. And people who take a couple of cooler years and claim, "aha, see the earth is cooling" are mistaking climate for weather.

OK Mark, point taken, but for every article supporting the "global warming" theory, there is an article allegedly disproving it.

Once upon a time, most people thought that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction too. Time and additional information can change perceptions so I try to keep an open mind. I am not convinced that there is a problem with global warming or climate change. The earth has gone through many temperature cycles over millions of years.

Thank you for being civil.

OK Mark, point taken, but for every article supporting the "global warming" theory, there is an article allegedly disproving it.

You're confusing "articles" with "science". Just because big oil funds several "think tanks" to constantly put denial propaganda in the press, doesn't mean the science backs up the propaganda.

Once upon a time, most people thought that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction too.

Yes, but there were no facts and evidence to back up that conclusion. The facts pointed to the opposite, but then just as now you Conservatives created their on conclusions based on your "opinion" and "desires" instead of facts.

Time and additional information can change perceptions so I try to keep an open mind.

LOL! There is so much evidence that "every" professional scientific body world wide has concluded global warming is real. What are you waiting for, the bible to tell you it's true?

There is no lack of convincing and irrefutable evidence - there's only a lack of willingness on your part to accept it.

I am not convinced that there is a problem with global warming or climate change.

That's clear. But there's sufficient evidence to prove there is. Your lack of being convinced doesn't same much about your ability to discern fact from opinion though.

The earth has gone through many temperature cycles over millions of years.

No doubt, and it will probably go through them again. But none of those cycles happened at the "rate of change" we're producing. Ecosystems adapt to change over geological time, and even then when those cycles have been abrupt huge percentages of the ecosystem have been destroyed.

Thank you for being civil.

We can be as civil as we like, but extremists like you that refuse to recognize the science, the facts and the reality of the situation are dire and yet you act like unscientific Neanderthals. There is nothing "civil" about the behavior of Conservatives on this issue. You are extremists, radical, irrational and dangerous.

Thank you, Anonymous. And as the book The Family says, dishonesty in the service of Christ Jesus is a virtue.

I apologize for jumping onto this climate change discussion bandwagon, as Anonymous, Ethan, Mark, and P have already done more than enough to disprove Gary's patently false and logically fallacious arguments. I just want to make one comment regarding this issue: I really believe that far fewer Americans would doubt global warming/climate change if they personally experienced its effects. I lived in Costa Rica for a year and you just can't find climate-change denying Costa Ricans. Why? Because they've personally witnessed how the seasons have changed, how fall/winter rains have gotten more intense, and a variety of other climate developments. Likewise, after enduring several years of permanent drought, you can't find many Australians who deny climate change. Nor can you find deniers among the people of the Marshall Islands, whose country may literally cease to exist within a few decades (due to rising sea levels).
For reasons I don't understand, the United States has been relatively insulated from the effects of climate change, despite the fact that we've contributed more to it than any other society on earth. Perhaps this is overly pessimistic and even morbid to say, but maybe more Americans need to be personally hurt by climate change for us to finally wake up and do something about it. Unfortunately, it may well be too late by then.

For the basic argument:
http://education.arm.gov/studyhall/warming.stm

But where is a good argument that higher temperatures are a bad thing ?

"Once upon a time, most people thought that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction too." --Gary

Amusingly, the people who told everyone that Iraq had WMDs are, for the most part, the same people who deny that increasing carbon dioxide (and methane, and the other greenhouse gasses) in the atmosphere traps more heat.

More charts..

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/science/monitoring/hadat.html

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/science/monitoring/hadcet.html

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electronic cigarette Amusingly, the people who told everyone that Iraq had WMDs are.

weight loss tipsI apologize for jumping onto this climate change discussion bandwagon.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1648-Global-Warming-SCAM-HackLeak-FLASH.html

I regret to inform you that the global warming hoax is out of the bag now folks.