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ON BOOBAGE. You can now tell your grandchildren that you learned that word here. It is a good term for what is happening at MSNBC. On July 30, nearly half an hour of the MSNBC news day was devoted to the discussion of Hillary Clinton's cleavage. If you happened to see the picture starting all this fuss you might scratch your head. To paraphrase, I've seen exposed cleavage, and that picture is not it.

So what is all the publicity really about? Could it be a way of addressing the gender of Hillary Clinton, without seeming to do so? "Can cleavage be the commander-in-chief?" That sort of thing.

I'm not sure. My take on the whole non-issue is available at my other place.

--J. Goodrich

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the wife and I use the word boobage all the time. It's titacular!

I too am a fan of the titular term.

You know, in the boobage department, Clinton is no Maggie Thatcher. Now Maggie, she could show some skin...

Conservatives may just have better boobage. Just look at Rudy!

I actually think it helps. It reminds voters she's not the status quo, and women relate to her. I just read over a politico women are seemingly starting to line up behind.

I don't know. I rather think that for a while there it was considered appropriate for women who want to be be "taken seriously" to dress in a modest, professional fashion. A bit of style is nice as well, but not the main point.

This, incidentally, was not bad for women. I see young women today carrying on about how it's their right to express themselves through dress, irregardless of environment. This is simply wrong.

I don't think Clinton's clothes are inappropriate, but clearly anything that flirts with it even a little bit *is* turned into an issue.

So, why bother? Keep your neckline up. Wear a blazer.

You know, men wear suits and ties in even the hottest, most humid weather when it's appropriate for them to be in business attire.

Just do it, that's all.

"It reminds voters she's not the status quo"

I don't agree. I think it turns her into the status quo, when she needs to everything and anything *but that.*

Of course, I feel for her. It's an almost impossible task. And they're going to throw all kinds of shit at her nonstop. In no way would it end with the election if she actually won.

it is because msnbc is so obsessed with making Hillary president. They do massive amts of coverage devoted to the fabulousness of Hillary.
If it is fluffy so what. as long as she looks great in it.
and they will not say anything that reflects badly on her.
They have elevated her to ice queen status.
So, if discussing her damn clevage is what it takes to keep talking about her so be it.
anyone who doubts the press is obsessed with her and making her look perfect then why is the one bad story all season on her in the LA Times regarding her and outsourcing not talked about at all.
If another candidate was in this article on the same subject they would be running them down all day for a week.

"coverage devoted to the fabulousness of Hillary.
If it is fluffy so what. as long as she looks great in it.
and they will not say anything that reflects badly on her.
They have elevated her to ice queen status."

Well, if so, the ice queen is melting. She doesn't look good, she looks awful: hot, tired, and in need of a vacation. She looks like a secretary at your kid's junior high, perspiring in August, while the boss vacations in the Hamptons. It may humanize her in some sense, but you're not going to promote her for it.

You can't underestimate how much prejudice middle aged women face about their competency, mental acuity, their energy level, etc.

That's the only thing that comes through in this brouhaha. There's nothing sexy about it.

I'd like to see Robin Givhan's primary vote.

OF all the reasons not to vote for Hillary Clinton, that she's got breasts is a pretty shitty one. I just wish more of you realized it's a shitty reason to vote FOR a candidate too.

Personally, if it weren't for Edwards and Pelosi, I'd have no hope for this crappy center-right party that considers gender to be more important than reform.

"She doesn't look good, she looks awful: hot, tired, and in need of a vacation. She looks like a secretary at your kid's junior high, perspiring in August, while the boss vacations in the Hamptons. It may humanize her in some sense, but you're not going to promote her for it. You can't underestimate how much prejudice middle aged women face about their competency, mental acuity, their energy level, etc."

Wow, and who said sexism was dead? LOL. What a thing to say about someone.

"Wow, and who said sexism was dead? LOL. What a thing to say about someone."

Sexism is more alive (and more insidious) than ever.

"You know, men wear suits and ties in even the hottest, most humid weather when it's appropriate for them to be in business attire."

And speaking as a man in said attire right now, it's annoying and bothersome on every level. I'm more than willing to let Hillary wear a v-neck down to her navel without comment if it meant I could wear jean shorts and t-shirts to work.

"And speaking as a man in said attire right now, it's annoying and bothersome on every level. I'm more than willing to let Hillary wear a v-neck down to her navel without comment if it meant I could wear jean shorts and t-shirts to work."

I don't know. My brother is a civil engineer. He wears a hard hat with his suit.

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