Plastic Lake, A toy truck and plastic debris scattered on mud along the Lake Uru Uru shore near Oruro, Bolivia.
Credit: Marcelo Perez del Carpio/Climate Visuals Countdown

Yet another consequence of the war in Iran is a looming supply shock in plastics. Plastics, derived from oil by-products, are everywhere, but their origins remain somewhat mysterious to the average consumer.

Today on the show, we demystify the plastics industry with Beth Gardiner, author of the new book Plastic Inc.: The Secret History and Shocking Future of Big Oil’s Biggest Bet, an exposé of the industry that underlies modern consumer culture. Along with Matt and David, they discuss where plastics come from, how they are made, and how the situation in Iran will affect the supply chain. They also get into the major players, the semi-scam that is recycling, and whether non-fossil fuel alternatives are a viable solution in a world that is already up to its knees in plastic.

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David Dayen is the executive editor of The American Prospect. He is the author of Monopolized: Life in the Age of Corporate Power and Chain of Title: How Three Ordinary Americans Uncovered Wall Street’s Great Foreclosure Fraud. He co-hosts the podcast Organized Money with Matt Stoller. He can be reached on Signal at ddayen.90.

Matt Stoller is research director at the American Economic Liberties Project and the author of Goliath: The 100-Year War Between Monopoly Power and Democracy.